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Mitra
07-10-2006, 04:25 AM
What we learn to do, we learn by doing.

Aristotle
(This week's quotation from the Staying Power Journal.)

This one definitely seemed to apply to maintenance! I think many of us learned the way to improve our health and weight by reading PP, and other books and articles explaining the role of nutrition in health. And, for many (though not all) just following the rules seemed to work - get enough protein, not too many carbs, and suddenly you feel better and your excess fat starts to disappear. Then, one day, you reach your goal weight, or whatever health problem you were dealing with has settled down, so you decide you're at this magic state of "maintenance." Suddenly the rules go all fuzzy. Protein's the same as ever, but carbs... well, you might be able to increase them to the same as your protein, or maybe even a little higher. Or maybe not. You'll know if you've gone too far because, erm, well, maybe you'll gain weight, maybe you'll retain water, maybe your blood sugar will go out of control again, maybe your triglycerides will go up ... And at this stage, suddenly calories seem to become much more significant. Many people get away with ignoring them in the early stages, but it seems most of us in maintenance have resorted to counting them at some point, or at least have had to exercise some portion control.

I added up my carbs and protein for a few days when I first started PP, then pretty soon learned what I could eat freely, what I could eat a bit of, and what I couldn't eat within my carb target, and didn't bother counting any more. After I started maintaining, I had a couple of times when I needed to count everything for several months to get a handle on things (ie to stop my weight drifting up. And, while the intervention phases are, if not "one size fits all," not far from that, in maintenance it's "made to measure!" It seems each one of us has had to find our own path, to work out whether we need to journal forever, keep carbs at intervention levels, relax carbs a bit but keep a lid on the calories .... Now I'm not counting, but from the times when I did, I know that if I go over about 75g carb, I start to get tired after meals, and retain fluid. I also know that when I add extra carbs, I usually add extra fat to go with them, so they send my calorie level up quite fast. Even apart from the carbs, I need to watch that I don't go overboard with the high fat/calorie foods like cheese, cream and nuts. I can eat them, and my diet is far from low fat, but I do have to watch that if I put cream on my fruit, it's a Tbs or so, not half the carton :rolleyes: .

How did you work out what you needed to do? And what do you need to do? (I know wome of us have hung out together for a long time now, and know each other's stories, but there are some new people here, and maybe you've learned more since last time you told your story.)

Carmen Sandiego
07-10-2006, 09:26 AM
exercise some portion control.
I'm sorry...what is this "portion control" you speak of?? ;) Probably my biggest downfall! Even with LC alternatives (or should I say ESPECIALLY with LC alternatives!)

How did you work out what you needed to do? And what do you need to do?
I must admit that this idea of Maintenance is awfully scary at times!! Since for most of my life my thoughts have been centered on weight-loss...not keeping it off! And figuring out that I may have been sabotaging my own efforts because I was afraid of "getting there", was troubling too...

But now that I've figured that out, I'm looking forward to maintaining. But what has worked for me is making sure that I'm getting good ratios of the things I need...

I need to keep my protein and fat high...keeps me fuller for longer; hunger is like opening Pandora's Box (for me!). I get some naughty thoughts and it's hard to switch them off!

I also need to get in my 100+ ounces of water a day to feel good...I have no idea how it has affected my weight loss, but I notice an improvement in eye dryness and skin clarity when I do.

Shadow
07-10-2006, 12:50 PM
I'm sorry...what is this "portion control" you speak of?? ;) Probably my biggest downfall! Even with LC alternatives (or should I say ESPECIALLY with LC alternatives!) ... I must admit that this idea of Maintenance is awfully scary at times!! Since for most of my life my thoughts have been centered on weight-loss...not keeping it off!
I'm with Carmen :D! Portion control is not my forte :rolleyes: and it's been a rocky road figuring out how to maintain (which is much different than yo-yo'ing all over the board) :p. In fact, I don't know that I've nailed it down yet :lol:.

I know I must keep my carbs between intervention/transition levels, watch my fat intake, and exercise. Of course, now that the big M has hit ;) things aren't quite as steady as they were - but at least I'm not completely losing the battle with mother nature :thumbsup:.

Relief
07-11-2006, 10:16 AM
somedays I don't think I'm even CLOSE to knowing what long time , true maintainance is going to look like for me, since in 6 plus years of PP-ing I haven't managed to maintain for longer than about 2 weeks ( what is it you said Shadow--yo-yoing all over the place?) True, the big M and thyroid issues have played a big part but I suspect that my gain last summer had more than a litlle to do with a several weeks long love fest with sugar free Mint Milanos!!! Denial can be a dangerous thing! ...." This is sugar free--I can have that, right?"

so, currently on a loss part of the yo-yo and would still like to lose about 5 more pounds of fat-- possibly a bit more. I have to watch calories very carefully to lose. can't go over about 1200 a day and closer to 1000 is better. in order to do that I must watch portions. it is easiest if I only eat one real " meal "a day--4-6 ounces of meat and salad or veggies with controlled amounts of butter or salad dressing. and then the other two "meals" I do protein shakes or protien muffins and possibly a small snack of sugar free jello or some other low cal treat( I made some mango /mint sorbet the other day which turned out great!). I have to watch the nut snacks and the cream portions very carefully as they creep up and I stop losing.

Once I reach maintainance (again) I'm going to be in experimental land (again) discovering what I can and cannot do, though because of my past history, I'm going to be VERY conservative about changing anything! I wont be adding any more carbs than I eat now--40 to 60 is where I stay--often a lot less-- and I wont be actually changing the foods that I eat. I will hopefully be able to eat without being this vigilant about how Much and how Often I have --oh, say-ricotta pancakes--which are low carb but incredibly calorie dense.