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cmcole
08-27-2006, 03:36 PM
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Weighty matter: Is religion making us fat?



August 25, 2006
BY CATHLEEN FALSANI (cfalsani@suntimes.com) SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST


Back in the decadent early 1980s, New Wave rocker Adam Ant mocked clean living in his maddeningly catchy song, "Goody Two Shoes."


"Don't drink, don't smoke, what do ya do?" Ant taunted.
A new Purdue University study may hold the answer to Ant's question.
If they don't drink and don't smoke, what do they do?
Eat, apparently.
"America is becoming known as a nation of gluttony and obesity, and churches are a feeding ground for this problem," says Ken Ferraro, a Purdue sociology professor who studied more than 2,500 adults over a span of eight years looking at the correlation between their religious behavior and their body mass index.
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Ferraro's most recent study, published in the June issue of the Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion, is a follow-up to a study he published in 1998, where he found there were more obese people in states with larger populations of folks claiming a religious affiliation than elsewhere -- particularly in states with the most Baptists.
So it's not surprising that Ferraro's latest study found that about 27 percent of Baptists, including Southern Baptists, North American Baptists, and Fundamentalist Baptist, were obese.
Surely there are several contributing factors to such a phenomenon, but when Ferraro accounted for geography (southern cooking is generally more high-caloric), race and even whether overweight folks were attracted to churches for moral support, the statistics still seem to indicate that some churches dispense love handles as well as the love of the Lord.
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Ferraro's study also found that about 20 percent of "Fundamentalist Protestants," (Church of Christ, Pentecostal, Assemblies of God and Church of God); about 18 percent of "Pietistic Protestants," (Methodist, Christian Church and African Methodist Episcopal), and about 17 percent of Catholics were obese.
By contrast, about 1 percent of the Jewish population and less than 1 percent of other non-Christians, including Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and others), were tipping the scales with commensurate gusto.
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Gaelen
08-27-2006, 10:33 PM
LOL...oh...so much material, so little time. ;)

mcsblues
08-27-2006, 11:10 PM
Yes, I do no one thing. If anything made me fat ... it certainly wasn't religion! :p

momuvfour
09-15-2006, 12:34 AM
It musta been all of those potlucks. I'll tell you there are some fabulous cooks that make fabulous pasta dishes and desserts(LOL).

gitfiddle
09-15-2006, 12:20 PM
There might be something to it, though. I happened to see a program on television yesterday that was on the history of breakfast cereals. (It gave me goosebumps to listen to all those anti-meat testamonials.) It seems that in the 1800's meat was thought to increase sexuality and libido and the mainstream religions were prone to encourage cereal for breakfast as being more "wholesome". ;)

cmcole
09-15-2006, 12:37 PM
I think it was some woman from the Seventh Day Adventists who was friends with Mr. Kellog that came up with the whole "great" idea . . . and it went from there.

They treat her book as "gospel", I think.

gitfiddle
09-15-2006, 01:04 PM
Give me meat or eggs any day. There were so many glowing faces talking about the American breakfast cereal industry that I wonder if that doesn't directly relate to the obesity problem in this country.

momuvfour
09-16-2006, 12:40 AM
;) You may have a point about that Carol. I like cereal, but make my own with TVP. If you add peanut butter, and a little butter in it when you nuke it, it is really pretty good. I then put a little half and half and splenda on it, and it tastes decent. The regular Breakfast cereals will trigger your craving for carbs. But the grain industry would like to see that anyway. Judy( Sorry for over using the word it):suspicious: :suspicious: :suspicious:

sk12879
09-17-2006, 08:05 PM
Give me meat or eggs any day. There were so many glowing faces talking about the American breakfast cereal industry that I wonder if that doesn't directly relate to the obesity problem in this country.
I think there is an indirect proportion of healthiness of the food and the number of dollars spent marketing it. No one needs to be told that vegetables and fruits are healthy and subsequently there is little marketing for it. But the unhealthy foods are pushed by every celebrity there is.

Bogie
09-18-2006, 04:38 AM
Yeah, but look at the True Believers... ever see the patrons of a "health food" store? Who also tend to be the folks who look at me funny as I walk through the mall in my Benchrest Target Shooting Nationals t-shirt and World Cup team hat? (nope, didn't make the team, but raised $$ for 'em...).

Those folks in the "health food" stores sure don't look all that healthy.

Kill it, and grill it.

gitfiddle
09-18-2006, 12:16 PM
Cripes, you sound like Ted Nugent! :lol:

I'm all impressed--are you a target shooter?

Bogie
09-18-2006, 01:34 PM
Uh, yeah...

Just on a completely different level from what most people would comprehend...

miralin
09-19-2006, 02:00 AM
Kill it, and grill it.

I knew I liked you Bogie! *grin*

I actually grew up in a family that hunts - or did til about 10 years ago and everyone who wanted to, got too old or decided it wasn't worth getting up in the cold and the dark to do so.

Give me a venison roast or steak any day ....

scott123
09-23-2006, 07:09 AM
On one side of my family, I have quite a few relatives who are Christian Scientists and, on the other side, a large portion of Mormons. Both were strongly anti-alcohol. As a child, I remember large pot luck functions where the dessert table was larger than the food table. Teetotaling religions hit their desserts hard- very hard.

Tables and tables of sugary desserts. I had a Willy Wonka childhood. It was great as a kid, but I'm paying the price now.

gitfiddle
09-23-2006, 03:54 PM
Give me a venison roast or steak any day .... I forgot to come back and check this thread for a couple of days. Mir, I just got done munching a piece of venison jerky that the neighbor brought over this afternoon. Homemade is the best.

Bogie, I asked about the shooting because that was one of my fun things to do before I developed issues with my right eye. Pistol. I'm the target shooter in a family of hunters.

Scott, I can relate. In some families, food is as important as religion, especially around religious holidays.

momuvfour
09-24-2006, 09:26 PM
I've noticed at my Monday Night Bible Study every woman there is at least 200 pounds. They look at me like I have 2 heads when I state that I do not want dessert. We've had potlucks and some of them are fantastic cooks. And like you have noticed the dessert table is overflowing and alot of potato and pasta dishes. Judy

hawk
09-25-2006, 12:16 PM
HAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAA. This thread is so funny.There actually was an article that cereal was more wholesome than meat because meat raised your lobido??? Bring it on!!!
Carol... I am a very good shot with my 357. So good that my husband will not target practice with me. I also used to be the only woman skeet shooter at the local Izzak Walton gun club.
My dad took us out and taught us when we were barely out of diapers. I have done my share of hunting deer and pheasant. My dad had the most awesome unusual gun collection I have ever seen. He sold most of it a couple years ago. My sons have followed in his footsteps and have enough to start their own malitia. They have taught their wives and the whole family packs. My red headed daughter in law is so good with speed and acuracy that I nicknamed her deadeye(our last name).
I love animals... they taste good.

P>S> I am in a bible study and have gone to church my whole life. At our study we serve a large fresh salad or a tray of fresh vegetables and have a tray with meat and cheese. Everyone knows that I eat PP and tries to accomodate me. They also make homeamde pies. But most people are coming from work and so they gravitate toward the "real" food. When I have it at my house, I also make fresh venison stew in the crock pot or beef vegetable soup.

gitfiddle
09-25-2006, 04:24 PM
So good that my husband will not target practice with me.
Go get 'em! Mine can out-shoot me with a long rifle, but not with a pistol. I just love hitting the little spot in the middle. I don't hunt, but I can cook anything they can bring home.

I like venison chili, and I have a friend who can make a venison roast turn out like roast beef.

I can't see worth a darn any more, so I haven't been shooting. DH just brought me home a little semi-auto with no sights made in the fifties with white art-deco grips for my birthday. He wants me to practice aiming instinctively.

I agree about the grain claims! I'm just plain un-wholesome! :D

momuvfour
10-09-2006, 01:03 AM
My dad and uncle used to go pheasant hunting, and one time I think they went to Northern Michigan to hunt for bear. I think that wasn't very smart and they didn't go back. I don't know what they would have done if they had found one, They would have had to get it on the first shot. Judy