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mcsblues
04-06-2006, 01:56 AM
Don't get sick.

LEXINGTON, Ky. (April 3, 2006) − If you are not diabetic and you are hospitalized, your blood sugar level is probably the last thing on your mind. But the fact is that high blood sugar during hospitalization for serious illness increases your risk of infection and death.

Roughly one third of patients experience hyperglycemia, or high blood sugar, during their hospital stay, and many of those patients don’t have diabetes or are undiagnosed. Blood sugar levels tend to go higher when a patient is critically ill, for example, after heart surgery – a condition referred to as stress hyperglycemia. Stress hyperglycemia in seriously ill patients worsens outcomes – higher medical costs, higher incidence of infection and readmission to the hospital, and higher mortality rates.

Until recently there were no national standards of care for managing hyperglycemia in the inpatient setting. That changed with the 2005 release of the American Diabetes Association’s (http://www.diabetes.org/home.jsp) (ADA) Clinical Practice Guidelines – the ADA’s first guidelines relating to inpatient hyperglycemic care. By adopting and implementing these guidelines, the University of Kentucky HealthCare Chandler Medical Center (http://www.ukhealthcare.uky.edu/) is making huge strides in assuring that hyperglycemic patients don’t fall through the cracks.

“The effects are immediate. This will help patients now,” said Dr. Raymond Reynolds, co-chair of UK’s Glycemic Control Task Force (http://news.uky.edu/news/display_article.php?category=16&artid=1177) and UK College of Medicine Associate Professor of Internal Medicine, Division of Endocrinology and Molecular Medicine (http://www.mc.uky.edu/endocrinology/). “We are educating physicians, nurses, pharmacists, dietitians – the entire healthcare team. We’re giving them the tools they need to better treat patients.”

The traditional way of dealing with hyperglycemia in non-diabetic hospitalized patients: Simply not treating it or using sliding scale insulin treatment. In the sliding scale method, a patient is given an insulin injection only after his or her blood sugar level has spiked, without regard for meal schedules or the patient’s sensitivity to insulin. This may cause dangerous highs and lows in the patient’s blood sugar level. In other words, sliding scale insulin treatment is a method of correction, not control.

“Sliding scale insulin – those are dirty words to an endocrinologist,” Reynolds said. “It is reactive rather than proactive. Sliding scale insulin treatment puts a patient on a blood sugar level roller coaster, and it’s a dangerous ride.”

Under the new guidelines, nurses and physicians will follow detailed protocols based on a patient’s condition and blood glucose level. For example, blood glucose levels in critically ill patients will be kept as close to 110 mg/dl as possible, most likely with intravenous insulin. Other improvements in patient care include:
* So-called ADA Diets will be replaced with Consistent Carbohydrate diets, which help regulate blood sugar.
* A diabetes education plan will be developed for each patient.
* Follow-up testing will be planned for patients experiencing hyperglycemia while in the hospital but not diagnosed with diabetes.

“This is not an overnight change. It requires months of preparation and education,” Reynolds said. “We’ll follow outcomes and expect to see great improvements as a result of our hard work.”

Nurses and other staff members will be attending in-service education sessions through April. An online learning module, designed by Dr. Reynolds, is available for physicians. In addition, staff across multiple units have been identified as “Champions” and will serve as experts on the topic.

The UK Chandler Medical Center will be providing its expertise to other hospitals in various ways. UK’s Glycemic Control Program will likely be used as a model in hospitals across the state and beyond. For more information, or to make an appointment, contact the UK Division of Endocrinology and Molecular Medicine (http://www.mc.uky.edu/endocrinology/default.asp).

Apparently 'American Diabetes Association no longer endorses any single meal plan or specified percentages of macronutrients' which is news to me - apparently this directive went out in 2000;

http://journal.diabetes.org/diabetesspectrum/00v13n3/pg149f.htm

- but in practice, a "Consistent Carbohydrate diet" seems to mean just about anything the institution concerned thinks it does ...
... except low carb!!:confused:

Mitra
04-06-2006, 02:09 AM
I suppose recognising that blood sugar needs to be controlled is a start, but it seems amazing to me how people who think "fat makes you fat" is so obvious there's no room for discussion, don't see the connection between dietary sugar (carbs) and blood sugar!

Gaelen
04-06-2006, 04:23 AM
Malcolm...not to 'hijack' this discussion, but as someone who's spent WAY too much time hospitalized in the last year (10 days in 2005, 6 days just a month ago), and a 4-day stay in 2004, I can confirm with certainity that 'no two institutions are alike.' The last two stays were in a big cancer care facility in NYC, the 2004 stay in one of the three hospitals at home upstate.

I did have post-op hyperglycemia this last time (in fact, according to the bloodwork I had last week, I still have a very slight case of it.) Now, bear in mind, after each of my surgeries, I was not allowed to eat after surgery--nothing but ice chips and IV fluids--for three to five days. However, once I was placed on fluids, then soft foods and finally regular menus, I had NO trouble ordering and eating low carb choices (if that's what I wanted to do.) Even the smaller local hospital featured a patient-driven menu, which I was allowed from day one. Every meal except the first one (where I got a standard choice because there wasn't time for me to order something before the meal was delivered), I was able to order foods that were on-plan, and only foods that were on plan, if that's what I wanted to eat. On the standard choice meal, I just picked out what I wanted to eat and then had the nurse order me something extra.

I could also have food brought in by my visitors and family if I preferred as soon as I was cleared to eat solids--during my first stay at Sloan-Kettering, the woman next to me, from Trinidad, had curried goat and other specialties brought in each night by her Trinidadian friends, because she just didn't like American food.

This last time at Sloan-Kettering, I ordered from the 'served all day' section...chicken soup (no noodles or matzo balls, just meat and shredded veggies), salads, omelettes with several types of fillings, plain yogurt, whole fruit, fruit sections in unsweetened fruit juice, broiled fish, roasted chicken and turkey burgers/hamburgers, herb tea, and decaf coffee with real half and half. Granted, I didn't feel much like eating and seldom was able to finish my order, but it was pretty easy to get protein and fats, and ignore the stuff that didn't fit on plan. Had I wanted, I could even have chosen from special certified kosher or vegetarian menus--they brought me those menus on the first day I could order food so that I could pick the menu type I preferred.

Every hospital is different--and while I don't recommend the experience, hospital food doesn't HAVE to be all carbs and low fat-low protein, and you can refuse an insulin drip or at least question it once you're awake enough to eat solid food. Make it clear when you talk to the admitting staff that you have a special needs diet, and make sure the doctor/nurses are on board with your choice in advance and during your stay. And frankly, if you're worried about food choices on the standard menu, tell them you need a kosher menu for religious reasons (that also keeps the visiting pastoral counselors out of your room--a side benefit!) One page will be meat dishes, which are traditionally meat and vegetables only, with some pareve options like fish and non-dairy proteins like tofu, etc. One page with be dairy dishes, which allow no meat and may have more grains and beans, but also include the full repertoire of Jewish dairy dishes and pareve options like fish. Just don't screw up and order from BOTH sides for the same meal. ;)

Seriously, since the kosher menus are usually a smaller part of the meals prepared (except, maybe, in NYC hospitals!) they are made in smaller batches which dramatically improves the taste.

Hope this helps.

Knipfty
04-06-2006, 06:44 AM
What I do not understand is that the ADA has a food pyramid that is very similar to the USDA one. Below is a quote from their web site.

At the base of the pyramid are bread, cereal, rice, and pasta. These foods contain mostly carbohydrates (http://www.diabetes.org/nutrition-and-recipes/nutrition/types-of-carb.jsp). The foods in this group are made mostly of grains, such as wheat, rye, and oats. Starchy vegetables like potatoes, peas, and corn also belong to this group, along with dry beans such as black eyed peas and pinto beans. Starchy vegetables and beans are in this group because they have about as much carbohydrate in one serving as a slice of bread. So, you should count them as carbohydrates for your meal plan. Choose 6-11 servings per day. Remember, not many people would eat the maximum number of servings. Most people are toward the lower end of the range.

Why are they giving people who have a problem with surgar, more surgar?

mcsblues
04-06-2006, 07:19 AM
Hardly a hijack Gaelen and I'm glad your ordeal wasn't turned into a carb force feeding nightmare! - and perhaps you were luckier than most in the institutions you dealt with. But I think the point is that the ADA seem to want to wash their hands of responsibility on the one hand - and on the other provide 'recommendations' that say (I couldn't find the 2000 edict quoted ... but there are more recent 2002 and a 2003 issues!)

"A typical day’s meals and snacks would provide http://care.diabetesjournals.org/math/sim.gif1,500–2,000 calories with http://care.diabetesjournals.org/math/sim.gif50% of the calories from carbohydrate, http://care.diabetesjournals.org/math/sim.gif20% from protein, and http://care.diabetesjournals.org/math/sim.gif30% from fat."

and

"Patients requiring clear or full liquid diets should receive http://care.diabetesjournals.org/math/sim.gif200 g of carbohydrate per day in equally divided amounts, at meal and snack times. Liquids should not be sugar-free. Patients require carbohydrate and calories, and sugar-free liquids do not meet these nutritional needs. Diabetes medications may need to be adjusted to achieve and maintain metabolic control." (yes I always love that last bit!:rolleyes:)

- and this is supposedly because;

" Meal plans such as no concentrated sweets, no sugar added, low sugar, and liberal diabetic diets are no longer appropriate. These diets do not reflect the diabetes nutrition recommendations and unnecessarily restrict sucrose. Such meal plans may perpetuate the false notion that simply restricting sucrose-sweetened foods will improve blood glucose control.":confused:

http://care.diabetesjournals.org/cgi/content/full/26/suppl_1/s70#SEC4

And of course all this has to be judged in the context of the average patient not having a fraction of your knowledge and experience of glycemic control through a low carb diet - even if they did, their illness may prevent them from being able to demand a sensible diet which as the OP suggests might very well save their life.

Belfrybat
04-06-2006, 09:30 AM
I recently read Bernstein's Diabetic Solution. He has a form letter in the appendix which he recommends be printed out and given to the hospital and doctors before admitting if time allows. It points to the need to keep blood sugars under control in order to aid in healing, puts the decisions for food/ meds in the hand of the patient, and especially highlights the fact that no glucose drip is to be given -- saline only. Also states very firmly that the patient is not to be put on the ADA diet, but is to choose from the regular menu so the patient is in control. It is strongly worded and even threatens a lawsuit if the hospital and doctors don't follow the recommendations. The book was written in 1999, I think -- before any of the recommendations in the article Malcolm found.

Gabriel Guzman
04-06-2006, 12:35 PM
What I do not understand is that the ADA has a food pyramid that is very similar to the USDA one. Below is a quote from their web site.



Why are they giving people who have a problem with surgar, more surgar?


Because they represent the cutting edge of misleading information. What is more amazing is that their leading people have spent a fair amount of years in the laboratory and have all what's needed to really understand when a hypothesis is just plain wrong and still choose not to follow the data but to somehow make everything fit with that wrong idea.