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Mike-S
02-06-2008, 03:04 AM
If the last paragraph below that I've included from the article can be believed then imo this makes a case for my belief that fruits (and grains) are not a healthy diet choice; fruits may have the nutrients but I personally think the resulting blood glucose fluctuation makes fruit a bad choice. Comments appreciated! Thanks!


Consequences of a Burger, Fries, and A Diet Soda


"Middle-age adults who regularly eat a double burger, fries, and a diet soda for lunch or dinner increase their risk of incident metabolic syndrome by 25% compared with those who limit red meat to two servings a week.
But eating healthy doesn't reduce the odds of developing metabolic syndrome,"


http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/results.php?storyarticle=5490


"An unexpected finding was that consuming a prudent diet (i.e. one that had a high concentration of fruits, vegetables, whole grains) and low-fat dairy products did not reduce the risk of metabolic syndrome. "We had expected to see a benefit because we have seen a beneficial relationship in other studies," she said."


Mike

Gaelen
02-06-2008, 01:52 PM
If the last paragraph below that I've included from the article can be believed then imo this makes a case for my belief that fruits (and grains) are not a healthy diet choice; fruits may have the nutrients but I personally think the resulting blood glucose fluctuation makes fruit a bad choice. Comments appreciated! Thanks!

"An unexpected finding was that consuming a prudent diet (i.e. one that had a high concentration of fruits, vegetables, whole grains) and low-fat dairy products did not reduce the risk of metabolic syndrome. "We had expected to see a benefit because we have seen a beneficial relationship in other studies," she said."


well...here goes then.
The article doesn't really describe its 'prudent diet.' It doesn't say how 'high' the 'high concentration of fruits, vegetables and whole grains' is. It considers low-fat dairy part of a 'prudent diet,' which automatically makes it suspect.

Based on the conclusions drawn by the people using a self-described but unquantified 'prudent diet', I think I'd think twice before eliminating from my diet anything they were concerned about. ;)

There's nothing wrong with eating either fruits or grains in PP compliant amounts, unless you have a food sensitivity to something specific. A high concentration of them wouldn't be PP. So pass the grapefruit, melons, berries, and appropriate serving sizes of fruit, and enjoy them if you like them. Or eliminate them if you don't like them. But it's pretty risky to draw conclusions about the foods PP permits based on the slap-dash 'conclusions' of people making a comparison with an eating plan they don't quantify.

YMMV.

laughingW
02-06-2008, 02:00 PM
I don't do grains and only have fruits in PP levels.

Maybe you're a Purist kind of guy. Have you read that part of the book?

I got a kick out of the article's last paragraph. They recommended telling clients the same old same old even though the "prudent diet" had risk of metabolic syndrome. Sheesh

waltc
02-06-2008, 07:08 PM
Being diabetic, I keep my fruit consumption pretty low. By choosing fruit high on the ORAC level, I feel I get all the benefit of the fruit with the least amount of sugar. Generally I limit my fruit to small servings of berries and cantaloupe. These have the highest ORAC values.

I have eliminated grains from my diet. I am a carb addict, and I can easily eat a loaf of bread.