Diabetic with a plan: Intro, Hi!

[Kisha]

Hello all, :p

My names Kisha and I am starting the CURE this week. I am only 33 years old. On the lower end of the age spectrum. But even at 33 I see the things happening to me that the Drs are discussing in their newest book.

Such as sleep deprivation, unable to fall asleep as easy, worry, stress, chronic fatigue, un-controlled eating, low carb sloppiness, mind fog, concentration issues, expanding middle, and so on...

Simply having Type 2 Diabetes these symptoms can be very prevalent and it is much in me.

Already I am feeling a difference. This week I slowed my caffeine intake to a crawl and increased my melatonin intake at night and using the tips suggested, I feel pretty great today. I can't wait to see what will happen in the coming weeks and months.

I also am highlighting special facts that are important to me and going to pass the book along to other family members who I know would benefit from this book. Especially my parents who are in the 50+ range.

I'm so thankful for the Drs for writing this book. Even if I dont lose any weight, the feeling of being healthy is my top priority! I am not going to let diabetes win, no not this time...! :rolleyes:

Thanks,

[gitfiddle]

Nice to have you with us, Kisha! Protein Power is great for diabetes. It starts right away, too. Welcome in! :)

[Rishara]

Hi Kisha. It's great that you are getting started so young (not great that you have diabetes but are taking control). It took me a while to wake up to the reality of what type 2 diabetes can do to a person in the long run.

Good luck with the plan and keep us updated on your progress. It'd be great if we diabetics can keep up an active forum. :)

[ellie00200]

I am NOT diabetic, never was, but just after two weeks of the Cure, my fasting blood suger went up to 110!!! (just so happened I had a physical at that time so I have a blood test before and atter). Maybe 6W Cure disturbs metablism in ways that are unknown. Any experience with this??

[gitfiddle]

I am NOT diabetic, never was, but just after two weeks of the Cure, my fasting blood suger went up to 110!!! (just so happened I had a physical at that time so I have a blood test before and atter). Maybe 6W Cure disturbs metablism in ways that are unknown. Any experience with this??Yes, Ellie. I think it was because of all the whey protein shakes. Apparently, egg protein does not spike fbs, but I've never tried it. As soon as I started week 3, my counts went back to normal. Even lower because of the lower carb intake.

[Rishara]

Yes Ellie, the whey protein powder spiked my blood sugar into truly scary territory (180-200 range). I didn't have any issues when I switched to the egg protein powder.

[Kisha]

I have not noticed any spikes persay. Nothing like a piece of bread would do to me. I have been the opposite. More energy than in a long while and usually when I have high blood sugar, I can't get any energy going.

My issue with the plan (in part) is I don't totally feel as satisfied as I'd like to after drinking a shake. But then again if I wasn't on the plan I most likely wouldn't eat all till dinner. I really am not all that hungry persay. About 4pm though, I usually feel a big need to eat. At least it allows you to have a full meal.

I may try the egg substitute as well but I have about 30oz of shake left in my cupboard that needs to be eaten first.

Do you have a lot of muscle tissue? I know I certainly do. Maybe that accounts for why I seem to absorb the protein better. I am very sensitive with my blood sugars, so if it adversely effected me in a negative way, I'd stop them and go directly to the egg.

[Rishara]

Hmmm, I wouldn't say I'm very muscular at the moment. I tend to be more muscular than your average person naturally (when I was younger and thin I still weighed way more than people would think), but I am very out of shape right now. I guess it just goes to show you that everyone reacts differently to various food items. For example, Dr. Bernstein has onions and tomatoes firmly on his list of "No-No" foods, yet these foods don't seem to affect my blood sugar in the slightest. One of my typical lunches is a nice "subless" sub which is just a sub with all the fixings on a bed of lettuce instead of bread with Italian dressing. It has quite a few onions and tomatoes on it, and my blood sugar never budges after I've eaten it (it usually drops actually).

[Kisha]

Ya, I'd stick to foods that make "you" feel good, and to keep those blood sugars down. I don't eat tomato and if I do its a small portion on my salad. I've never noticed a spike from eating them either. But I error on the side of caution and just keep it to a minimum. My daughter thinks their "apples". It's cute. So I keep some baby tomato in the house for her.

I'm off 6wC for now. But I plan on subbing meals (for when I'm in a hurry) with the shakes still. It's better than not eating at all. Besides, if I don't eat several meals all day long, I have a very difficult time controlling energy, food cravings, and as a result... weight gain.

Gosh, I'd love to hear from anyone who's having luck with the 6WC.

My husband says he likes your sniper kitty, when I showed it to him. :p

[Rishara]

Thanks, I saw the sniper kitty pic a long time ago somewhere and thought it was the cutest picture so adopted it.

I'm not doing the cure right now. I ran out of egg protein powder fast because I only bought a small thing of it to see if it would work without spiking me. I have to get some more egg protein powder before I begin again, which will likely be next paycheck.

The shakes are kind of difficult for me to stick to because of my schedule. The morning is iffy on making a shake because I will wake up my hubby with the blender, and his sleep schedule has been so erratic that it's hard to predict if he'll be up or not. And if he went to bed at 4 am and I wake him up blending at 6 am he's gonna be very upset, lol. Lunch I'm at work. Yes, I can bring the shake, but it's not as good without the ice and honestly, I like going out to lunch to get out of this place for an hour. Dinner I usually have to cook anyway, so if I'm cooking I'm not likely going to want to make a shake for myself. I guess I'll just have to suck it up and figure something out when I get myself back to it. :) I could tell that the shakes were really working for me, so that's at least incentive. The egg protein powder just doesn't dissolve well enough to not use a blender... I was thinking of maybe blending up a batch and storing it in the fridge the night before or something.

I have no trouble with snacking anymore. I pretty much have 3 meals a day and that's it. Sometimes I'll eat 1 or 2 macadamia nuts, an ounce of cheese or a tbs of peanut butter for a snack if I get hungry between meals.

Well, anyway, there I go babbling again. :)

[Kisha]

Nice! Well those are definite positives! Yes, I think with the 6wC it's best to bend the rules a little to stay on it, than to be 100% and fail. You gotta find what works for you, right?

[Kady]

I'm 61 yr old female, 10 yrs ago diagnosed w/Type 2. I've fought it without meds as I'm as scared of the side effects of them as I am of high blood sugar. I use over the counter insulin sometimes but it drives my appetite & I gain weight within a week of using it just a few times. So I let my bs run high because I'm frustrated. Here's the thing. I cannot stand meat, or even eggs. I'm not a member of PETA or anything like that, it just gags me. The closest I can come to eating protein without gagging is rat cheese, and I'm not even crazy about that.
I find myself desperate. I tried going vegan for a while but I feel bad without at least a little protein. Protein shakes are all I can think of to get protein, but then I want to mix them with milk. I started to make one with heavy whipping cream one day but backed out. I know I sound disagreeable. I feel disagreeable & everyone around me would agree that I'm disagreeable!
I've read all over this website & it's pretty discouraging to see diabetics still taking meds and eating low carb. I thought that was the answer? I cannot buy yet another book, but I keep seeing reference to 6 Week Cure.
My fasting blood sugar has run 180-200 for years. Despite that, I've been blessed to still have normal blood sugar, normal triglicerides & cholesterol. I need to lose about 50 pounds. Seems I get more tired every year. I'm also hypothyroid & have trouble taking med for it; I get hyper symptoms after just a couple weeks on a very low dose of any kind, which my doctor cannot figure out.

Does anyone feel like dumbing down a very simple daily menu of low carb that wouldn't require eating a ton of animal meat or eggs? Here's another problem... when I eat vegan, I have no indigestion problems whatsoever. When I eat animal protein, get the Prilosec out.

Any help appreciated, I'm at wits end.

[gitfiddle]

Hi, Kady. Welcome to the forum. :)

I've been dxd T2 for about 17 years and manage it with diet and exercise. It's not always easy, but it works for me. My A1c is 5.6. I've seen Dr. Mike mention that it's difficult to keep carbs low and still get good nutrition on a vegetarian plan. Do you eat nuts? I make my shakes with just water or almond milk, which isn't milk at all, and use zero-carb whey powder.

Hypothyroid sometimes causes trouble even on a low-carb plan, as does menopause.

Do you get regular resistance-type exercise? That helps with blood sugar levels, too.

Have you read Dr. Richard K. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution (http://www.diabetes-book.com/)? He covers just about every aspect of the disease that you would want to know, plus has advice for following a no-meat way of eating.

No-one here can put together a diet for you, but will be able to do it yourself once you know your protein requirements. If you don't have the Protein Power book you can probably check it out from your library. It's very important to know the principles behind the diet. A quick way of figuring minimum protein requirement is here (http://www.wakehealth.edu/healthCalculators/). Just scroll down to find the protein calculator. Maximum carbohydrate intake is from 30-40g.

[Kady]

I typed a long response & lost it somewhere in cyberspace ~sigh~

Shortened down:
Thank you for your fast response.

I do eat nuts but it seems like I need to eat red meat or poultry, or else I feel worse than my normal worse. Ironic since what my body wants, I dislike so much. Vegan actually lowered my fasting blood sugar but shot it through the roof during the day.

Will give a try with the almond milk. Tried a non-refrigerated brand a long time ago but it was high in carbs and tasted yuk. They say Silk is a good brand & way lower in carbs. What kind of zero carb whey protein do you use? I use a GNC brand, has 3 gr/carb per scoop.

Exercise - no. :( I've been tired so long from blood sugar running high so long, I can't find the ummphh to even take walks any more. ok getting off my pity potty. I know I'm doing everything wrong but still looking for a way. I was hoping for a daily sample menu that was really simple, virtually no cook since I live alone & am one of those people who can eat the same thing for weeks on end before I tire of it. My endo - when I had one - actually suggested that was the best way to stabilize blood sugar. Just never have been able to find 'that' menu. According to the calculator link, I should have 66 gr/protein daily. I'm certain I don't get even half that amount.

Not sure what you mean by hypothyroidism & menopause cause trouble? I have both.

I read Dr. Berstein yrs ago, it was all about meat, will check it out again, thanks for the link. Appreciate your response.
Kady

[gitfiddle]

I typed a long response & lost it somewhere in cyberspace ~sigh~I hate when that happens! :(

I do eat nuts but it seems like I need to eat red meat or poultry, or else I feel worse than my normal worse. Ironic since what my body wants, I dislike so much. How do you feel about seafood?

Will give a try with the almond milk. Tried a non-refrigerated brand a long time ago but it was high in carbs and tasted yuk. They say Silk is a good brand & way lower in carbs. What kind of zero carb whey protein do you use? I use a GNC brand, has 3 gr/carb per scoop.I use Blue Diamond almond milk. It has 3 ecc per 8oz serving. Definitely chill it. My protein powder is Isopure Zero Carb in vanilla flavor. It mixes up completely in my smoothie-maker. I like to use a half-cup of frozen lc fruit instead of ice. It saves the blades and tastes better. I get it online from Netrition much less expensive than GNC. I buy 3 at a time and they have a flat $4.99 shipping charge.

I was hoping for a daily sample menu that was really simple, virtually no cook since I live alone & am one of those people who can eat the same thing for weeks on end before I tire of it.So am I, but you probably wouldn't be interested in my menu. ;) We're not nutritionists, just facilitating a forum for like-minded people. My endo - when I had one - actually suggested that was the best way to stabilize blood sugar. Just never have been able to find 'that' menu. According to the calculator link, I should have 66 gr/protein daily. I'm certain I don't get even half that amount.I would suggest you make a list of foods you can tolerate, look through a publication that gives you carb and protein counts (the internet has many sites) and tailor your own. There are free online sites that even do the math for you. I use Fitday.

Not sure what you mean by hypothyroidism & menopause cause trouble? I have both.Hormones are a factor quite apart from diet and exercise. You can be eating perfectly and have a hormone imbalance that stalls weight loss.